Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Batman the Killer



Batman that kills

http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=5301138&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

Comment: There is an interesting discussion about why people have a problem with the Begins version of Batman letting Ras die on the train, while no one has a problem with Tim Burton’s film Batman that kills over 20-30 people over the course of two films. The best comment is from this guy…

((OK, first off, Batman doesn't Kill. Period. If you think he does, or should, then you just don't understand what the character is supposed to be.

And yes, I'm including Tim Burton in that group. While his films did a number of things right, they also did a bunch of things flat out wrong. Batman does not, and would not, bomb factories with at least a dozen people in it, throw henchmen off belltowers, fire on people with the Batwing's machine guns, roast people with the Batmobile's engines, or strap bombs to people and throw them into sewers. To think that he would is a gross violation of the character. I was very relieved when Batman was clearly against killing in Batman Forever. It's one of the few (very few) areas where Schumacher got it right and Burton got it wrong.

He may rough up criminals something fierce, but killing is a line that Batman will not cross. He may be very tempted, as he was with the Joker in The Dark Knight Returns, but at the end of the day he will not do it. End of story.

And, yes, Batman letting Ra's die at the end of Batman Begins is a cop out, IMO. The whole "I don;t have to save you" thing is splitting hairs morally, but I think it's more indicative of Hollywood not knowing how to end an action movie without killing the villain than a misunderstanding of Batman's character
.))

from JonnyQuest037

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